The Twisted State of Conversation
May 8, 2009
Last night I was — where else — at the
BOWLING ALLEY!
Who knew all the life lessons to be learned in such a filthy place?
A woman there just for entertainment’s sake — her husband & daughter are the bowlers in the family — was yammering on about one interesting subject after another. I wanted to give her a big smooch & say “I LOVE YOU!”
Nothing in the whole wide world makes me happier than people who
TALK TO ME!
Really she was speaking with our daughter, who’s been going bowling with my husband on Thursdays without me all year. I’ve started going since my step-son moved to ALABAMA. Yes, I’m a bowling SUBSTITUTE, too!
I knew my daughter adored hanging with this group of older people, but couldn’t imagine why. Now I know. They don’t only talk to her, they also
LISTEN TO HER!
What a freaking concept.
(She told me to pretend to be someone other than her mother, so I wouldn’t blow her gig.)
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I hate my life when left desperate with those who have nothing at all to say. I’m sure that’s why I married a silent man and have a silent son! God’s sense of humor is huge. I love them I do, but the lack of communication is such a freaking drag.
Please don’t get me wrong, I love silence when it’s appropriate, i.e., during television programming, in movie theatres, while reading or busy with something else.
And I’m not suggesting I’m interested in the idiots who preach at me or think they know it all.
That is NOT conversation.
However, if in the midst of a public gathering with nothing else going on and 3 or 4 people standing around . . . SHARE SOMETHING, ANYTHING! Keep me from wanting to bang my head against the wall or peel my skin off with my teeth.
I’m talking
CONVERSATION!
A back and forth dialogue with people who look me in the eye while they tell stories that make us both laugh & cry!
INTERPERSONAL COMMUNICATION!
This obviously excludes those who wish to vomit upon me verbally and then look away when I have something to say. Those are BORES, not conversationalists. Folks who take over & show no interest in hearing what anyone else has to say? Oh no, I’m DEFINITELY NOT talking about them.
Follow the rules of basic civility!
Honest to God, I’ve gone a month sometimes without anyone asking me a single question. It breaks my heart, it really does.
I’ve lived in five states, nearly died twice, raised two children, lived & loved a man who died of AIDS, held at least 27 different jobs, worked in NYC, held elected office, assisted in an appellate death penalty trial, thrown a dime at a man’s head during a production of Rent, had a dude show me his penis in the side mirror of his 18-wheeler, been offered cunnilingus by a non-English speaker in a San Francisco laundromat, driven a nun to Philadelphia and told a woman in line at a popular Florida amusement park to “Go Fuck Yerself!”
I’m fucking interesting!
But if you don’t ask me about it I’ll never force myself upon you. I’m not unique. There are millions of us.
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My favorite uncle amazed me, even when I was little. I LOVED going places with him & it didn’t happen near often enough. I grew up in a house with BORING people who talked about stupid shit.
But MY UNCLE would walk into a grocery store & begin chatting with the check-out clerk. He would ask, “So, do you have a boyfriend?” (If a person was bagging at the end of the aisle he would bring him into the conversation, too, probably asking if he’d ever dated the checker or knew any details of her life.)
She would turn purple and get all embarrassed — then actually ANSWER his question plus 10 or 15 more — and there was a good chance he’d know the boyfriend because he regularly talked to so many people.
I’d watch her come to life, giggle, stand up straighter & preen from the interest shown. I’m sure more than once it’s been the highlight of someone’s day.
For that moment she stopped feeling drab & invisible, standing in the middle of a supermarket talking to old bitches who only wanted to speak of price checks and coupons, people who didn’t care if she looked like she wanted to cry or if it appeared she’d been standing there for 12 hours and not a single soul had acted as if she was
A REAL PERSON.
To this day I make it a point to mention someone’s nail polish or jewelry or tell them I like their hair. It embarrasses the crap out of my kids, but that’s just too bad! (I’m not brave enough to ask the kinds of silly questions my uncle does!)
My son’s father would walk up to someone on a street corner and ask if they knew the score of a game that had occurred the previous evening. I loved that about him. He had such an easy going way of not caring if someone ignored him. He would no doubt think that THEY were weird, that it was THEIR PROBLEM, not his. So, of course, no one ever blew him off. Everyone adored him. He EXPECTED it.
The conversational thing doesn’t come as naturally to me. I’m always wondering if the person is going to
LIKE ME
which is such a fucking annoying trait that the first time I noticed it I really should have just driven a nail through my own foot and said,
“STOP IT!”
Why do I care if a total stranger likes me or not? Well, I care because I’m a sick fuck with issues and I have the self-esteem of a garter snake, hiding behind rocks and slithering in the dirt.
What I should have been doing ALL MY ENTIRE LIFETIME — instead of worrying about my lackluster hair or my chunky chiclet tooth or my powdered sugar donut belly — was not giving a shit, entertaining myself, talking to the people no one else talks to. Cause, ya know, quite often the average guy with spinach in his teeth is WAY more interesting than the perfect looking dude who spent half an hour on his hair that morning.
That’s what they should be teaching in high school!
Granted, there are no doubt some simple boring fucks out there who aren’t interested in communicating with other humans. I hate them. The times I’ve attempted conversation with someone who has the depth of cardboard & they’ve blown me off, well each of those incidences has stopped me from attempting at least 100 more times with 100 different people who might have been fantastically interesting. Yes, I agree, that just means
I’m a moronic asshole!
New people, fascinating information, it’s far better than any of the usual substances we seek. We self-medicate rather than experience the longing for real human contact. Connecting with someone while our clothes stay on can be far more intimate than sex. The body actually gets in the way of learning about the soul, which is why on-line or long distance relationships sometimes seem to move so fast.
I am a natural communicator, even astrologically speaking (Gemini with a Cancer Rising and Pisces Moon). I don’t care about things, I don’t own crystal or Hummels or miniature lit Christmas huts. I don’t want silver or china or jewels.
I feel untethered & high as a kite after great conversation, like I need a Quaalude or a Valium to bring me down.
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My inner yapper often feels silenced by societal norms, unsatisfied with the conversational subjects I feel limited to with most people.
If I discover you’ve recently visited China, I don’t want to know about the temples, I’m interested in the toilets. “How was your squatting experience?”
Sometimes I want to mention the AIDS thing or the fact that my mom once shot a dog. It doesn’t necessarily go over well. Once I mentioned the dog during a work luncheon with other people from the Probation Department and was met with dead silence & blank stares. Oops, wrong crowd.
Of course, politics can bring the same reaction.
I love my fellow bloggers, who in a single day often share more of themselves than I get from a month of real life.


May 8, 2009 at 7:49 pm
Great post! If I ever run into you at a bowling alley or a grocery store or wherever, I am ready to have an interesting conversation.
Thanks, Calvin! What a great name:) That would immediately be my first question! Just last night I found out that the guy at the bowling alley — whom everyone calls Louis — is totally pissed off that when he came here from Italy at age 11 his aunt just arbitrarily changed his name from Luciano to Louis! Can you imagine? My husband’s been bowling with him for 15 years and didn’t know what I found out in my first conversation – lol.
May 8, 2009 at 8:09 pm
This is why I love reading your blog. I always learn something interesting, or at least gain some new insight on human behavior. I don’t know why anyone reads mine. I don’t tell anything interesting about myself. Whenever I have the most to say is when I clam up the most. The less I post the more I have on my mind. I work all backwards and stuff.
You are too kind. Now I REALLY want to know what goes on in your head:) lol
May 8, 2009 at 8:28 pm
I wanna know more about the shooting of the dog. That raises my hackles. (har! get it? hackles?…ok, I’m leaving now)
Okay, I wrote it out for you but it’s such a freaking downer! Will post it soon:)
May 9, 2009 at 12:22 am
I’d love to sit with you sometime and pick your brain. Just the fact that you wrote, “chunky chiclet tooth” or that someone with spinich in their teeth could be wayyy more interesting than someone who just spent the entire morning fixing their hair – fuckn’ A – how do you come up with the wording for these posts. I sat here laughing at the chiclet thing, I’m telling you Pamajama! You are a lovable nut that would probably be very dangerous to hang out with. Dangerous in the fact that my sides would hurt from laughing so much. Your family- daughter and husband – oh, and son- are so lucky to have you in their life! You rock my world girl! “Oooh, wrong crowd” – my gosh, dying laughing here. Ever think about being a stand up comedian? You should totally go for it!
Ah, my ego really loves your comment – LOL. As for that fucking chiclet tooth, that bitch has been the bane of my existence since I was 12. I guess I’m pretty lucky if that’s all I’ve got to bitch about, huh? All my limbs still attached, no brain damage (at least not confirmed).
Thank you, thank you for thinking I’m funny:) Cause sometimes I’m just SO TOTALLY NOT! Although it’s very rare that I’m not laughing at my own stupidity! It’s kind of like smelling your own farts — ROFL — see, there I go. Like a dog:)
May 9, 2009 at 8:45 am
Why did you drive a nun to Philadelphia? And why did you throw a dime at a man in the audience of Rent? And what about that offer in the laundromat? And why a laundromat?
I have the same reaction to conversation – I get high and exhilarated. I’m a Gemini through and through when it comes to that. Unfortunately sometimes my conversation skids along, bumping into other people. I don’t mean to interrupt – I think it’s a bit of bipolar peeking through. I just want to jump right into the conversation and splash around.
A friend recently came to visit and I thought my head my split in two I was so excited to talk with someone. Not that I don’t like talking to my husband, but you can’t just talk to one person all the time.
You make me laugh with your questions:) I was becoming a Catholic — back in 1992 or so — and she needed a ride, so I offered. I threw a dime at the dude cause he was checking his messages during Angel’s death scene & totally broke the spell & the other alternative was to cut his heart out (it’s an entry and it happened back in February). As for the laundromat, the dude saw me carrying my laundry in and the place was empty, so he took the opportunity.
And I’m glad to hear someone else gets wacked out by conversation:)
May 9, 2009 at 3:53 pm
You always stuck me as a “talker”…I can carry on a conversation, but love silence.
It is rare that you find two people with a good balance of talking and listening…a true conversation.
To put it lightly, yes, I’m a talker:) But when I’m with someone who has something to say, you would never know it.
May 9, 2009 at 5:34 pm
Yea, I wanna know how he made the offer in the laudromat if he couldn’t speak English?? Did he mime it or what?
I knew sooner or later you would mention me in here…..
“And I’m not suggesting I’m interested in the idiots who preach at me or think they know it all”
…..but I just want to say, I do not think I know it all, in fact am certain I do not…..lol….I just know a little….and I am bad, bad, bad about spouting off sometimes….hence the name…I DO carry a soapbox around with me. A few issues can get me going!
And you know I decided a long time ago two things…..they were necessary for my long term happiness in life.
One, the only ‘rule’ I was going to think was important enough to follow in my life (forget what all the churches were trying to tell me to do) was that I should treat every person I come in to contact with, in a respectful manner due a human being……..I know, I know, you don’t totally agree with that. Unless he’s in prison for doing something crappy, and someone is doing even shittier things to him.
And two, I decided no matter what other people did, how they acted, if they whispered about me, whatever…..I was going to ‘take’ it all as love. LOL! If you meant something nasty towards me, you were going to have to be all out blatant about it! And even then I decided I would take it as love….lol….it just made my world more peaceful that way! Ya know!
And Bad Alice, she threw the dime cause the dirt wad had the audacity to be on his phone during a performance! What an idiot! LOL
So while I will try and respect your ‘preachin’ comment Pam, I’m still taking it as ‘love’, kay? LOL, oh and what Florida amusement park? I’m curious! I missed that post if there was one!
He said, “Can I lick your pussy?” like they were the first English words he’d ever spoken, with a very heavy accent.
And I WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU!!! This is not a conversation. This is a blog! You are leaving comments! It’s different! I LIKE COMMENTS.
I had to search a bit, but I found the post that includes the infamous “park incident”: http://pamajama.wordpress.com/2007/12/06/disneyworld-at-christmas/
May 11, 2009 at 10:39 am
There are indeed millions of us out there and for the life of me, I just can’t figure out why people are A) afraid of us; or B) think we’re weird. Aren’t we the people who make life interesting? Don’t we make the world better for everyone else by providing conversational fodder?
Ya, that’s what I thought.
People are uptight, fearful, assholes:) Signed: Judge Judy:)
May 12, 2009 at 1:35 pm
People always want to talk to me. I don’t care where I am, someone will find me and talk to me like I’m there long lost sister. My husband affectionately calls it the “flypaper for freaks” factor. It’s NEVER the boring people. I do the same thing though, if I’m in line or at a counter, and someone makes eye contact with me, I immediately have to know where they got their shoes. Like draws like, I guess.
We have a lot in common.